tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-60240597866218178822011-06-06T17:47:02.492-06:00There are a few of us that have been going through the similar path of recovering from a toxic spiritual experience so we have informally dubbed ourselves DeTox Church Group. Our posts are mainly a concensus of opinion - the lines blurr where one begins and the other one ends.NoJokehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13689804617836257708noreply@blogger.comBlogger101100tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6024059786621817882.post-27867734970701561122008-08-08T08:42:00.007-06:002008-08-08T08:52:09.221-06:00

We've decided to name our blog after our most common posting name to attempt some consistency. Couldn't figure out how to change the blog name so created another one called DETOX CHURCH GROUP. So from now on we'll be posting there. Feel free to come by! Click here (but don't forget to bookmark the new one when you get there!) : http://detoxchurchgroup.blogspot.com/

NoJokehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13689804617836257708noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6024059786621817882.post-91180188124700355972008-08-07T02:02:00.000-06:002008-08-07T02:03:00.088-06:00

All of what we endured and are now evaluating makes us wonder if there could be a new word to take the place of Christian that would better describe the type of Jesus' follower we are becoming. The word Christian has so much bad press due to the abusers' and their dutiful enablers who have wrecked everything. With their bad behavior they have managed to give us all a bad rap. What's worse is this

NoJokehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13689804617836257708noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6024059786621817882.post-60165559779205493182008-08-06T14:48:00.009-06:002008-08-07T02:04:03.427-06:00

This post mainly speaks of where we are in relation to church stuff 3 years after leaving the old one. We are finding that we are still not ready to jump in and help out at the good church yet, which is sometimes disconcerting, and we are evaluating our reasons for that. Each one of us who have left the former church could write a book on what occurred there, and needless to say old habits needs

NoJokehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13689804617836257708noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6024059786621817882.post-16193683070314524192008-04-16T14:15:00.012-06:002008-06-27T13:23:23.549-06:00

We've been discussing lately the journey of healing once off the former church ship. There only seem to be a few books that help you now that you are out, while there are plenty of books that help you identify the spiritual abuse you finally had sense enough to leave. Churches have classes for the physically abused but don't seem to know what to do with the casualties of spiritually abuse. So

NoJokehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13689804617836257708noreply@blogger.com4tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6024059786621817882.post-58710253959210968152008-03-10T14:08:00.008-06:002008-05-26T11:28:25.715-06:00

I've taken down my original post but want to leave a place to continue the commenting we've had on this one.

NoJokehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13689804617836257708noreply@blogger.com33tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6024059786621817882.post-5232314375889132012008-01-04T14:26:00.002-07:002008-03-10T14:59:37.385-06:00

We've been watching certain fellow "ship jumpers" pivot back into ministry in other churches shortly after their flee from the controlling church we were all a part of. Having felt the need to heal and get set free of all the legalistic garbage that had seeped into us without our knowing it, we've been holding our breath (sort of) waiting to see how long they last before the same thing happens to

DeTox Church Grouphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04577928704648225823noreply@blogger.com43tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6024059786621817882.post-899443468069482742008-01-03T16:37:00.001-07:002008-05-08T16:10:20.237-06:00

'Think for Oneself' is what authoritarian style leaders hate to promote. They'd rather you 'Think what I think and Do What I Do' (which should really be 'Do What I DON'T Do' because you are mainly there to serve them so they don't have to DO any of the mundane daily stuff themselves).Here's what Wikipdia says about Freedom of thought:"To deny a person's freedom of thought is to deny what can be

BoneyFingerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16032894491416377045noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6024059786621817882.post-67261254257101504052008-01-03T15:02:00.002-07:002008-05-08T16:10:54.467-06:00

What is it within us that causes us to question, to research, to learn? Isn't there a Proverb that states that it's the glory of God to conceal a matter and to search out a matter is the glory of kings? (Proverbs 25:2 (New International Version). so what is up with these authoritarian leaders who think they are rulers who dismiss us if we ask questions and label us as rebellious? It goes

NoJokehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13689804617836257708noreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6024059786621817882.post-72221271836574925922007-12-28T15:21:00.001-07:002008-05-08T16:08:38.979-06:00

Often when encased in a Vortex World, one is reprimanded for speaking out in what is perceived as dissent. By reprimanded, I mean frowned upon by others with a look of pain or one of displeasure. The step beyond that is being avoided in the hallway the next time you show up to an event. But for those who don't act like children and take a chance at conversing with you since they can't avoid you,

NoJokehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13689804617836257708noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6024059786621817882.post-29570404514130517182007-12-18T14:25:00.001-07:002007-12-18T15:06:15.266-07:00

Just getting set up today but just want to say Hi and let you know that we'll begin blogging primarily about emerging from certain dysfunctional organizations, and the stages of detox that have helped us get healed and sane again -- or at least we feel we're on the way to sanity. Maybe we should have called the Blog 'On the Way to Sanity'... but no, enough second guessing! Had enough second

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